859. Giles Hollingsworth
Giles was believed to have migated to St. Clair County, Alabama about 1835.
1413. John R. Hollingsworth DNA Administrator
John of Giles and Jeff of Aaron are apparent descendants of William Hollingsworth (b. c1775-1780 SC). They share a unique marker mutation and match 67/67 markers. Our research indicates that William was the probable son of Jeptha of Jacob of Thomas of Valentine, Sr. however, that is unproven at this time.
John R. Hollingsworth descendant of Giles (b. c1805 m. Mary "Polly" Hawkins b. c1816 SC) of St. Clair Co., AL, apparent son of William Hollingsworth (b. c1775-1780 SC m. Jane Nelson Tracy, 1st wife b. c1783 d. c1816 SC).....of Valentine, Sr. (37/37) (66/67).*
John's wonder explanation of the DNA process.
Hi Tom and Mel, (5/17/2010) I am not a genetic expert but I enjoy reading a bit now and then so that I can understand at least most of the genealogical DNA testing. It is my understanding that your non-surname matches can certainly be a real cousin who shares a common ancestor with you (within a reasonable distance in time). It can also be "just a coincidence". The odds are that it is a coincidence ... the more non-surname matches that you have. In other words, some lineages have markers that are not that uncommon and those participants have hundreds of non-surname matches. The Valentine lineage is not that common so a solid 67 marker match is likely very meaningful. Think of it this way ... theoritically speaking ... all humans started with the same DNA and only through hundreds of thousands of years (again theoritically speaking) of mutations are there differences. So ... some lineages do have more similar marker values on their Y-DNA when tested even though their common ancestors may have lived many thousands of years ago. Did that make sense? Genealogical DNA testing is really great tool and the new "Family Finder" test is setting a new approach that I believe will be very helpful to many. I hope you guys are enjoying a wonderful new week! Kindest Wishes, John
April 24, 2011 Easter Sunday
Hi Tom,
Thanks so much for the well wishes!
One of the reasons that I included my approach to hopefully solving this
mystery is so that others can see how the FF test can be used for this
type of research ... when there are apparently no records or
documentation to support it.I really, really, I mean REALLY :-), hope this is successful. If not
... well there could be two answers:1) Jeptha is William's father and there was simply not enough DNA
shared to forecast the match (5 generations distance is on the "edge" of
the tests capability).
2) Jeptha is not William's father. Honestly, I have no other good
candidates ... but will certainly be "looking around" to see if I can
find one!If the test is successful with a match between Cora and Ralph, then I
will be reasonably confident that Jeptha is my ancestor and can complete
my lineage back to Henry of Co. Armagh. If Cora and Ralph both also
match me and Ola Jean ... well ... I will consider it absolutely
"proven". That would be the ultimate success in my research!Becky is continuing to improve (thanks for asking) and we will be making
a decision (whether to go or not) on those air line tickets to the DVHSS
reunion very soon.I hope you and your family are well.
Thanks again,
Hi Tom, (May 16, 2011) Thanks for bringing the name "Giles" to my attention. Yes, I did notice as I scanned over the huge document. :-) Giles is such an odd name for a Hollingsworth. I believe ... after a very long in depth search of the area where William (the father of Giles) lived ... the name Giles was taken from a fairly well to do neighbor who lived near William. His name was William Giles and he owned a lot of land and was a Rev. War soldier. He or his family were probably kind to William and he may have named his son "Giles" in honor of William Giles. It seems from my research that William was somehow abandoned or perhaps orphaned and received no inheritance ... had a two large families and no land ... must have been poor and lived on in-law relatives land. Very few records regarding this William Hollingsworth and never any other Hollingsworth mentioned on any of them ... apparently no Hollingsworth family living near by .... hummm. Just my thoughts ... no proof ... very difficult lineage to research. I would be stuck at Giles if it were not for DNA testing! :-) Thanks again, John
John R. Hollingsworth descendant of A.J. (b. 1906 AL m. Amanda Jane Smith) of Andrew Jackson (b. 1875 AL m. Susie Catherine Roper) of Samuel Hawkins (b. 1844 AL m. Temperance Jane Chennault) of Giles (b. c1805 SC m. Mary "Polly" Hawkins) of William (b. c1780 SC m. Jane Nelson Tracy) of Jeptha (b. 1745 DE m. Nancy "Ann" Gordon - 2nd wife), of Jacob b. 1703/4 m. Rachel Chandler) of Thomas (b. 1661 Ireland m. Grace Cook - 2nd wife) of Valentine Hollingsworth, Sr (b. 1632 Ireland m. Ann Ree) of Henry and Katheran Hollingworth
1416. Thomas W. Hollingsworth
Thomas was a member of the Union Army, Co., E., 36th Iowa Vol. Infantry. Thomas was mustered in the army in Feb 1864 and out 21 Aug 1865.
889. George Cook
Estate administered 11/9/1844. Notes: 26 Jun 1838 - GEORGE PEGRAM to GEORGE COOK for $ 77.50 - 106 acreson waters of Belew`s Creek ...begin at a small dogwood on old line...W onLOMAX old line to Spanish Oak, JOEL PARRISH`s corner...thence N & W toJOEL PARRISH`s corner a sowerwood poplar on WILLIAM NEAL`s old line...towhite oak old corner of a tract once owned by WILLIAM TAYLOR...W on newline now JOHN FRAZER`s... Wit: HENRY HARRISON, JAS. NELSON (jurat).Proved Aug 1838. (DB 24:222)